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hey everyone thanks for joining us for a

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live episode of houston we have a

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podcast on nasa's gary jordan we're

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getting together in front of the cameras

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this time to record this episode live

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because because it is our 200th episode

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of houston we have a podcast so we

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thought we'd do something special we're

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going to make this interactive we're

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going to take some questions we were

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looking for some special guests to get

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on our show none of them are available

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so we do have dan hewitt here as our

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special guest today dan thanks for

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joining yeah like i said it's uh it's

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always great to be the bottom of the

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barrel so thanks for letting me back in

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gary we actually did really want you to

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uh to come on this show because you

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kicked us off with episode one and uh

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today's episode theme is going to be

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talking about what you have been doing

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since you've been doing a lot of work

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with nasa tv and building up the mission

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coverage for a commercial crew so we're

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going to learn a bit a little bit about

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that we'll talk about the podcast and of

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course we'll be answering your questions

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live just comment uh right below on the

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facebook live stream so let's get right

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into it dan uh the first question i have

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is last time we had you on the show as a

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guest was four years ago you were the

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international space station public

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affairs officer what have you been up to

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since it's funny i mean we recorded

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episode one like 10 feet over there just

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sitting at a table thinking hey let's

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try it if it if it sounds terrible we

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just won't put it out but here we are

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200 episodes later that's right you know

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you and the whole team wow thanks uh but

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yeah back then i was i was the pao or

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the public affairs officer for space

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station and still do a lot of work with

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space station but it's expanded i work i

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get to work with you every day now on

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everything space station we have leah

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cheshire

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people who have watched nasa tv have

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definitely seen her and we cover

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kind of everything happening here at jsc

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with space station and commercial crew

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all you're very aware of it

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over the last couple of years we've been

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working and just last year

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started flying humans from america again

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for the first time since the end of the

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really just diving in head first into

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all of that i mean it's a big team at

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nasa that works on that here in houston

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teams of florida

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that's pretty much eaten my lunch for

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the last couple of years

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well that's really what i want to get

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into is describing all that work that

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really nasa tv if you're looking at the

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mission coverage it looks very different

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from how we've done it historically but

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i want to start there i want to start

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with understanding just how we've done

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it in the past and how it is different

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so take us through what nasa tv and our

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mission coverage used to look like yeah

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i mean nasa tv has been around

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uh i showed up at the very end of

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shuttle and by that point they've been

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flying shuttle for about 30 years it was

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a pretty well oiled machine you got

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time during shuttle missions um so it

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was definitely pretty exhaustive

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for for trying to just cover every

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it was i mean you were you were in the

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very early stages of high definition

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fledgling so that wasn't a huge part of

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i mean just think about all of the ways

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just to talk to people

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a lot of those lessons in terms of you

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know how did we cover it when people

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mean for us in the us we know there's

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they're launching from florida yeah

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did so i came into nasa after shuttle

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shuttle launch i didn't get to work a

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shuttle mission for those that got to do

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it what was that like what were you know

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working on broadcast what was that like

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yeah i as i said i came in at the very

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end yeah i started i was a it was a

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internship and then i started full-time

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coverage with a bunch of kind of the

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playback highlights things like that

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what we ended up doing for a commercial

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stuff we ended up doing anyways so you

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got to sit in with some of those some of

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the knowledge of what we used to do yeah

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especially when you're a student get you

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getting you in there to kind of see see

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what it's like kind of soak up that

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the people that were doing it at that

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about it like the just the level of

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knowledge you had to just acquire

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we would do an hour long show

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showed up it was an hour long show

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everything happening on the station so

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was awake and you'd replay any video

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from earlier in the day and show kind of

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the live stuff that's happening

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off day or the crew wouldn't have much

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interesting to say the least so uh it

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like the first time i ever was ever

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doing the nasa commentary i think you

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too that's how i learned yeah it was on

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space station that's how we learned it

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was definitely a much kind of lower risk

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learning than you know

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your first commentary when somebody's

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doing a spacewalker or something

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and when i go back and listen to my

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early episodes i

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am i was so bad i was so bad so it was

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it was good that i was you know it was

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kind of a lower risk environment but i

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mean is anybody that's done live tv

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knows

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tv productions are really resource

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intensive

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and as the years went by we realized

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more and more people were just consuming

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things on demand and at the same time so

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it fulfilled a need to

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show people video from the space station

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and also just tell people what's

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happening well

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thanks to social media and just the

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prevalence of all the different tools we

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have to communicate with people you can

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do that just via a blog update and put

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out a tweet put out a short post

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somewhere and

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then i don't need a 30 minute tv program

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just to get that kind of information out

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and there are so many platforms for

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sharing video now we just had kind of

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more effective ways to get that out

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there to people than just just a

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terrestrial television station so

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we transitioned away from doing space

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station live um definitely had some some

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really great qualities to it but we just

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kind of made the call to go in another

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direction yeah yeah it's a more modern

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approach now people are consuming more

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bite-sized chunks and everything this is

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a really good question calvin thanks for

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for uh submitting and if you want to ask

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more questions keep them coming i'm

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going to be reading them throughout

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today's broadcast i also wanted to try

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something um it's a it's a pull feature

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on facebook live we're gonna see if it

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works if not just please comment um

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below uh but i wanted to throw in some

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polls for the podcast itself since we

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both started with the podcast so this

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first question is what kind of houston

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we have a podcast episode do you prefer

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so this is one of them right we're on tv

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we do a live broadcast it's very similar

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i think to how we do the normal um

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houston podcast episode sit down

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interview this one's about a particular

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topic which is which is mission coverage

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but we do all kinds of topics do you

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like those do you like our normal

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interview shows we've done panels so

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you've gotten to sit with gates mcfadden

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at comic palooza we did those live

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panels i did a stage show

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with another podcast

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writing excuses was the podcast i did it

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with and then we've done some narrative

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types so of those polls uh which which

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are of those different types of shows

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which one do you like uh go ahead and

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and put it in the poll feature it seems

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like it's it's actually working yeah i

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know

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i mean on this side of it the panel was

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a lot of fun it was cool to have like

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the crowd reaction and everything

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because normally it's just you know us

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sitting in a room really quiet so we

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don't make alex mad with bad noise

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um

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so that was really cool and then the

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narrative i think the the entire thing

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that pat did um over the over the apollo

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uh anniversaries and everything was just

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it was fascinating and it

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it really does give you an opportunity

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for just really dense content to just

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give it the time it deserves to like

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breathe that was i really liked that

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heroes behind the heroes was that

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episode and it was about restoring this

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obsolete piece of hardware that had the

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ability to

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pull back some taped audio and then we

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were able to digitize it because it was

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that whole process of recovering this

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piece of hardware super interesting

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story it's a four part series so yeah is

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that one of the things you like or do

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you like or do you like some of the

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other stuff or maybe a combination of

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each of these

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all right getting back into the mission

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coverage stuff so we

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were talking a little bit about the

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historic part of things how we used to

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do the coverage

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then you get the assignment hey hey dan

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we want to do something grandiose for

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this new uh era in human spaceflight

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we're going to be working together with

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commercial companies how did you first

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start approaching it yeah and i want to

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make it abundantly clear this was not

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just dan doing this this was the work of

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so many people

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um

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so i obviously need to say that uh but

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our initial thought when we were going

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in is we we knew it had to be a little

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bit different well we knew it had to be

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more than a little bit different it had

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to be different for shuttle

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you're talking it was a nasa spacecraft

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nasa astronauts along with international

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partners and a couple of others

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especially when we were flying to the

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space station but it was very much a

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nasa thing

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um

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we you would find other people to bring

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in sometimes but i mean this is this was

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the nasa show when it came to commercial

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crew we we now know we were we were

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going to be working with

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two companies spacex and boeing that

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they own the hardware they're flying the

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missions we're essentially giving them

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our astronauts to to bring to the space

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station and come home so obviously they

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have a humongous peace in that and they

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have their own identities as companies

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they have their own priorities and so we

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knew that anything that we were going to

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do

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it had to be together we never wanted it

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to be

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here's the nasa show and here's the

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spacex show or here's the nasa show and

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here's the boeing show we wanted it to

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be here's the human space flight show

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and so it was a lot of work in in the

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initial years which we had a couple

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years where we knew this was

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at least this is what we wanted to try

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and do and boeing and spacex were pretty

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much of the exact same mind so that made

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everything a whole lot easier

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just with everybody with that same goal

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we all everybody's inevitably going to

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have different ways to get to that goal

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but knowing that we have the same

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ultimate goal

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that like right there was like oh all

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right we're good we're good

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um so

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we we knew that it was going to be joint

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we knew that you were going to have

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different locations involved

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even between the different providers you

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have a couple of common ones like

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both are launching from kennedy

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different pads different facilities to

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actually launch but we have some pretty

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established stuff down at ksc the

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kennedy space center so we knew we were

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going to be able to use that

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they're both going to the international

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space station so we knew that we were

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going to be using mission control here

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in houston

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but then you have the the kind of the

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one of the main separators is spacex

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controlling dragon everything from

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hawthorne in california

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and then boeing controlling from one of

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the control rooms here in houston so

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that was something a little bit more

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we had already done we knew how to do

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the spacex one was just a wholly new

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how the heck are we going to integrate

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all of these different places together

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i mean so that was a challenge but it

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was a fun challenge

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and again it wasn't really difficult to

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get everybody on board this is what we

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wanted to go do

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so you got to spend way more time just

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solving like the technical problems and

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things like that which

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you had you had all those different

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locations

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and then

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it will get into this but then you had

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the added

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uh

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luxury of trying to figure out how the

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heck are we going to get signals from

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all of these different landing zones

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drastic you have drastically different

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return profiles one splashes down in the

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ocean one's in the middle of one of

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several deserts

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how the heck are we going to show people

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that because you know we're going to

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want to see it and we've we've found

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some really kind of creative ways to be

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able to to get views back so it's been

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fun it's been fun but it sounds like

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it's it's a it's a mix of challenges you

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have the

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the piece of working with not just nasa

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as you said before it was nasa telling

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nasa's story you know we're gonna we're

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gonna do our thing now you have to get

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other priorities in there and then

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there's this whole technical challenge

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we want to tell the story from front to

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end we want to pull in all of these

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different locations literally two

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opposite ends of the united states put

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them together including the ocean now

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we're in the ocean too the desert uh

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we're in all these different interesting

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areas so it's a combination of these

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these diplomatic challenges and the

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technical challenges yeah and

519
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i mean you i always had more fun with

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the technical stuff just because trying

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to figure out how to get a signal from

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you know the middle middle of the ocean

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in the middle of the desert like that

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was that was really cool

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and again that's something that

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technology especially over the last

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couple of years has has really helped

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with

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um

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where

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i mean you have instead of having to

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like rent a massive satellite dish and

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drive it into the desert we have a

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pretty small pop-up one that the boeing

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team has that were able to get a signal

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from literally the middle of nowhere

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because that's where you want to try and

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land your spacecraft

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and

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i i just i just love what we've been

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able to do with with the boeing return

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stuff that's probably my favorite like

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aspect of these missions is like going

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out in the desert and doing those like

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it's

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develop

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we did a lot of work

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uh you know prior to ever flying where

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you go out to the desert you kind of

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rehearsed landing and everything there

551
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was almost like a mad max vibe to it

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where everybody was lined up in a giant

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convoy and everyone's wearing big

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goggles and everything because it was

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110 degrees out and the sun was trying

556
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:40,720
to destroy you

557
00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:43,200
but it was just so much fun

558
00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:44,640
didn't you go out when it was cold too

559
00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:46,000
was it like super cold in the morning

560
00:18:50,310 --> 00:18:49,360
yeah oft of t's landing was at white

561
00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:50,320
sands

562
00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:52,640
and it's a desert so daytime usually a

563
00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:54,960
little warm nighttime really cold yeah

564
00:19:00,070 --> 00:18:58,160
it was a nighttime landing and

565
00:19:01,750 --> 00:19:00,080
we've gone to really cold places in this

566
00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:01,760
job we've been to kazakhstan when it's

567
00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:03,120
you know snowing and everything for

568
00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:04,880
whatever reason that was

569
00:19:10,470 --> 00:19:06,880
like the coldest i've ever felt like my

570
00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:10,480
feet hurt the entire time but everything

571
00:19:13,909 --> 00:19:12,400
worked the equipment was awesome we were

572
00:19:16,870 --> 00:19:13,919
able to do some

573
00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:16,880
kind of reporter in the car in the chase

574
00:19:21,270 --> 00:19:19,360
vehicle heading to the landing site i

575
00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:21,280
remember standing outside and

576
00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:23,200
everybody's freezing but

577
00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:25,440
you you kind of saw the the capsule

578
00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:27,039
coming down under the parachutes and

579
00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:28,880
just a very like silhouette like

580
00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:31,600
backdropped against the night sky

581
00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:34,480
and you know just this roar went up of

582
00:19:38,710 --> 00:19:37,039
just let's go like just everybody just

583
00:19:39,990 --> 00:19:38,720
so excited and like it was it was

584
00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:40,000
phenomenal and

585
00:19:44,230 --> 00:19:41,760
we were able to you know talk to some of

586
00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:44,240
the team members live on tv and then we

587
00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:46,160
got out to the landing zone we were able

588
00:19:50,710 --> 00:19:48,320
to you know show show the entire

589
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:50,720
recovery talk to some of the astronauts

590
00:19:54,870 --> 00:19:52,480
that were there sunny williams named the

591
00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:54,880
spacecraft while we were out there and

592
00:19:59,029 --> 00:19:56,559
it's just

593
00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:59,039
we're able to bring people in closer to

594
00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:00,720
a mission than i think we've ever been

595
00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:02,720
able to before yeah and that's what's

596
00:20:06,390 --> 00:20:05,039
really exciting about it well i think

597
00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:06,400
people are really excited about this

598
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:07,600
because i'm seeing a lot of questions

599
00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:10,000
coming in so um this one this one from

600
00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:13,280
george uh from ukraine is asking about

601
00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:15,360
the collaboration specifically between

602
00:20:21,669 --> 00:20:18,799
uh how nasa works with um nasa tv and

603
00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:21,679
then spacex um well i mean historically

604
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:23,120
i know we used to do like different

605
00:20:27,190 --> 00:20:24,960
broadcasts and everything so so how's

606
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:27,200
that collaboration work yeah and that i

607
00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:28,720
mean that's something that evolved over

608
00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:30,960
time too um any anybody that follows

609
00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:33,039
spacex you know that they they do their

610
00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:35,039
their own webcasts

611
00:20:38,549 --> 00:20:35,840
and

612
00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:38,559
they had a a very different style a very

613
00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:40,559
different approach than what nasa did

614
00:20:44,710 --> 00:20:43,039
and so it was fun to to work with them

615
00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:44,720
understand what works really well for

616
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:47,039
them share what works really well for us

617
00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:49,440
and come out what i really do think was

618
00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:51,440
the best of both worlds with what we

619
00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:54,480
ended up doing with these broadcasts um

620
00:20:58,950 --> 00:20:56,799
our work with spacex it's the exact same

621
00:21:01,990 --> 00:20:58,960
with our work with boeing where it's

622
00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:02,000
literally you're you're side by side in

623
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:03,360
pretty much every single decision that

624
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:05,200
gets made about how to how to do these

625
00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:10,789
the spacex team is incredible

626
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:14,640
in both their technical prowess and

627
00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:17,520
just their ability to make stuff look

628
00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:20,640
really compelling and look really good

629
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:21,600
um

630
00:21:26,549 --> 00:21:23,679
and we get we get to do pretty much all

631
00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:26,559
that with boeing too so like it's

632
00:21:31,510 --> 00:21:28,799
it's a great place to be in um they're

633
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:31,520
both and i think i already said this

634
00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:32,880
with both of these companies you're

635
00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:35,039
working with people who are just giant

636
00:21:39,190 --> 00:21:37,360
space nerds who are just who live and

637
00:21:41,909 --> 00:21:39,200
breathe it every single day yeah and so

638
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:41,919
it's really easy to then work on a giant

639
00:21:45,909 --> 00:21:44,000
space nerd show for people when you have

640
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,919
all of that common ground between you

641
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:47,440
exactly yeah

642
00:21:51,750 --> 00:21:49,200
um we got another one this is a

643
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:51,760
technical question um from eric who's

644
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:54,400
asking how do you address time delays uh

645
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:56,159
in the signals coming from multiple

646
00:22:00,789 --> 00:21:57,440
locations

647
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:00,799
that's that's a good question because

648
00:22:04,870 --> 00:22:02,880
it varies kind of depending on where you

649
00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:04,880
are luckily

650
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:07,520
most of your locations are pretty pretty

651
00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:09,760
non-delayed for the most part that we

652
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:11,840
don't do we try to do as little kind of

653
00:22:14,470 --> 00:22:13,440
point-to-point to point jumping as

654
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:14,480
possible

655
00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:16,640
um and one of the things that we usually

656
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,280
focus on is you know whoever is actually

657
00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:21,120
kind of switching and punching the final

658
00:22:23,909 --> 00:22:22,640
broadcast that's where all your sources

659
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:23,919
are so you're not

660
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:25,679
you don't have like six links in the

661
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:28,240
chain to either add delay or complexity

662
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:30,960
or the risk of losing a feed

663
00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:33,440
so we don't really have many delays um

664
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:36,480
nasa tv is not on a delay and so you're

665
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,000
pretty much seeing everything that we're

666
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:40,799
showing you you're seeing it the

667
00:22:45,510 --> 00:22:43,440
the real time that we're seeing yeah um

668
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:45,520
so that's going to change though when

669
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:47,919
you start going to the moon you'll have

670
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:49,919
a little bit more delay and then

671
00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:51,520
i don't know how the heck we're going to

672
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:54,159
do anything from mars with that delay

673
00:22:58,149 --> 00:22:56,320
when people are there uh that's going to

674
00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:58,159
be a really fun problem to try and

675
00:23:01,669 --> 00:22:59,840
address we're not quite there yet we'll

676
00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:01,679
think about we'll think about that in

677
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:03,840
you know a little while but we got some

678
00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:06,159
time yeah we got some time good good

679
00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:07,760
um yeah these questions that are coming

680
00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:09,679
in are awesome i wanted to pause and do

681
00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:11,200
another poll though uh because it seems

682
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:13,280
that that that function is working so

683
00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:15,840
i'm going to jump back to the poll about

684
00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:18,320
houston we have a podcast um how often

685
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:19,760
do you listen to

686
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:21,520
a podcast episode we come out every

687
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,679
friday so are you a person that listens

688
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:25,520
once a week every friday you listen to

689
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:27,280
it do you listen every so often do you

690
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:29,200
only listen to episodes that sound

691
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:30,720
pretty interesting to you so if you see

692
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:32,080
an episode topic you're like ooh i want

693
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:33,760
to do that one or do you want more do

694
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:35,679
you want less we'll put up a poll and

695
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:37,600
you can answer one of those questions

696
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:39,440
uh i see some more questions coming in

697
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:40,960
leah cheshire

698
00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:43,760
that name sounds pretty unfamiliar

699
00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,279
uh i feel like i've heard that that's

700
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,200
the word yeah i lost it but she but

701
00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:49,200
she's asking um who is your favorite

702
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:51,279
podcast guest which i think is an unfair

703
00:23:54,390 --> 00:23:52,559
question because

704
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:54,400
i've had so many different guests i've

705
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:56,720
had historians i've had filmmakers

706
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:58,320
astronauts engineers scientists

707
00:24:01,909 --> 00:23:59,600
programming i've had a bunch of

708
00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:01,919
different people um i always pick on

709
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:04,480
though uh jennifer rosnell who is our

710
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:07,200
local historian um i really enjoy

711
00:24:10,710 --> 00:24:08,880
working with her she's been on the

712
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:10,720
podcast a couple of times

713
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:14,000
and she's uh she comes in super prepared

714
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:16,480
we did one for the apollo anniversary

715
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:18,400
apollo 11 anniversary

716
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:19,679
and um

717
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:20,480
she

718
00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:21,840
uh put together all these different

719
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:23,360
stories i wanted to talk about some of

720
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:24,799
the lesser-known things so she put a

721
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:26,240
collection she literally did a bunch of

722
00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:27,520
research put a collection of the

723
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:30,320
lesser-known stories of apollo

724
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:32,240
that were happening around apollo 11.

725
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:34,080
and that's the end of being the episode

726
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:36,480
that we put out um one of my favorites

727
00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:38,159
to to this day and actually it's one of

728
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,760
our more popular episodes then i don't

729
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:41,760
know if you have a favorite guest i'm

730
00:24:45,990 --> 00:24:43,679
like sitting here typing furiously

731
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:46,000
trying to remember his name i think it

732
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:47,919
was scott smith but it was it was one of

733
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:50,240
our nutritionists and he talked about

734
00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:52,720
the nutrition yeah um

735
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:54,240
just some of the different links between

736
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:57,520
nutrition and just the the crazy chaos

737
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:59,120
that that can play with your body that

738
00:25:02,149 --> 00:25:01,200
you don't even think about

739
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,159
i mean

740
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:04,240
everybody obviously you have to eat well

741
00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:06,480
here on earth to expect to be healthy

742
00:25:09,830 --> 00:25:08,240
all the time but when when you go into

743
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:09,840
microgravity

744
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:10,960
and

745
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:13,520
you get the added stresses of your body

746
00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:15,440
adapting to all that just how much

747
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:18,080
bigger of a role that that plays it was

748
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:21,279
really i like eye opening yeah to listen

749
00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:23,039
to all that so that one was really cool

750
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:24,799
i really enjoyed that one too

751
00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:26,960
uh we got another one from aaron anthony

752
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,400
another name we definitely don't

753
00:25:32,789 --> 00:25:30,720
recognize uh who's asking what stories

754
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:32,799
we hope to tell in the next 200 episodes

755
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:34,799
um i really do hope to keep this one

756
00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:36,640
going um one of the things i'm really

757
00:25:41,110 --> 00:25:38,720
looking forward to is telling is talking

758
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:41,120
more about artemis big time

759
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:42,720
when we start doing moon missions we're

760
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:44,559
going to start really having a better

761
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,640
understanding of how i put how all these

762
00:25:50,789 --> 00:25:48,480
different pieces come together and i

763
00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:50,799
cannot wait to do deep dives into each

764
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:53,120
and every one of those intricate pieces

765
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:54,480
of a moon mission i think that's going

766
00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:56,880
to be so exciting yeah i'm

767
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,440
exact same page yeah like everything

768
00:26:04,710 --> 00:26:01,200
artemis over the next couple years is

769
00:26:06,789 --> 00:26:04,720
just gonna get cooler and cooler um and

770
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:06,799
we're fortunate that a bunch of it is

771
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:09,200
here at jsc i mean i

772
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:12,000
just on another project got to meet the

773
00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:15,039
teams that are designing the tools

774
00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:16,480
for the moon missions and they're

775
00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:19,039
already testing them in our fake moon

776
00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:20,080
yard

777
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:21,039
over

778
00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:26,480
that that works happening right now

779
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:28,880
it makes it all feel that much more real

780
00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:30,880
and so i can't wait until we're we're

781
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:32,559
really doing yeah like you said the deep

782
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:35,760
dives into into because i mean any

783
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:37,840
a lot of space stuff is cool it gets

784
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:39,760
ratcheted up when it's being done on the

785
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:42,240
moon yeah absolutely

786
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:43,679
this is so awesome i want to jump back

787
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:45,200
into our commercial crew topics though

788
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:47,279
so we were talking about the um you were

789
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:49,840
talking about preparing um so let's talk

790
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:52,480
about now what it looks like so we've

791
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:54,159
done it you did all the planning you got

792
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:55,360
everyone together you got all the

793
00:26:59,750 --> 00:26:58,320
technical stuff all the bugs uh fixed we

794
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,760
are ready to go

795
00:27:03,190 --> 00:27:01,200
if you're tuning in to some of our

796
00:27:05,430 --> 00:27:03,200
coverage what what can you see all the

797
00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:05,440
way leading through you know that moment

798
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:07,120
of smoking fire yeah i was gonna say we

799
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:08,480
still haven't fixed all the bugs we're

800
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:10,240
actively fixing bugs even as you're

801
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:12,400
watching stuff so that never ends but

802
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:14,000
sure it's

803
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:15,760
we've we've been able to do a couple of

804
00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:16,960
missions now

805
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:17,760
um

806
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:18,559
we've

807
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:20,960
had three crude launches within the last

808
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:24,080
year which is wild to think about um the

809
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:26,399
the i mean the m2 last year feels like

810
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:28,880
10 years ago but i think we all aged a

811
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:30,640
lot in 2020

812
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:33,600
um but i mean nowadays it

813
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:35,840
we're getting to kind of a pretty nice

814
00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:37,840
cadence where we're never going to stop

815
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:40,399
tweaking and changing things just as you

816
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:42,080
kind of find things that work well or

817
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,760
things that don't yeah

818
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:44,799
but

819
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:46,399
we're we're in a pretty good rhythm now

820
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:48,240
you're you're going to see uh you're

821
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:50,399
gonna see a lot of the crew and the

822
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,200
couple of months before we

823
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:55,360
we lose access to the crew very

824
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:57,120
understandably they have to you know do

825
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,799
their final preparation for space so

826
00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:00,240
they don't always have time to talk to

827
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:02,880
us and so we we have to kind of find

828
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:04,159
time with them

829
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:05,840
where we can really help people kind of

830
00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:08,399
get to know them and you and the team do

831
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:10,159
a great job of putting together like

832
00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:12,240
interviews with them and everything

833
00:28:16,149 --> 00:28:14,000
and then we always try to do kind of a

834
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:16,159
final we call it a crew news conference

835
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:17,279
it's

836
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:19,039
typically about a month before they

837
00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:22,159
actually launch uh and i mean this is a

838
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:24,399
clip from when we did the the crew 2

839
00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:26,159
astronauts yeah

840
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:27,360
and

841
00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:29,600
this this one was

842
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,080
it looks like this because in addition

843
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:34,159
to kind of evolving with all the new

844
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,399
technology we had to

845
00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:38,399
do all of these first crude missions in

846
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:40,480
the midst of the pandemics right you had

847
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:42,000
to rethink how you were doing these

848
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,720
opportunities um so i mean this it's

849
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,640
literally them in four different offices

850
00:28:50,549 --> 00:28:48,559
in our building next door

851
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:50,559
so we could have them kind of all like

852
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:52,240
on camera

853
00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:53,840
make sure we weren't violating mask

854
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:56,080
mandates or anything like that

855
00:29:00,389 --> 00:28:58,080
but we try to get every opportunity

856
00:29:01,190 --> 00:29:00,399
possible to to get people to know the

857
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:01,200
crew

858
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:02,399
because they

859
00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:03,520
they always say they're the tip of the

860
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:05,039
spear but these are

861
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:07,279
always incredibly interesting incredibly

862
00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:08,720
talented people

863
00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:11,520
um so any opportunity we can get to help

864
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:14,559
people know them and then we do kind of

865
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:16,880
the typical the nasa

866
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:18,640
where you're doing news conferences with

867
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:20,799
managers giving people overviews of the

868
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:22,000
mission

869
00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:23,840
and we produce a lot of like the

870
00:29:30,149 --> 00:29:26,080
on-demand video content to help explain

871
00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:30,159
things and you have a huge web presence

872
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:32,799
but you do a lot and then

873
00:29:37,590 --> 00:29:35,760
i mean the months before it's it's

874
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:37,600
basically outlining what a show is going

875
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:39,679
to look like you get a basic show

876
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:42,159
outline you divvy up who's going to be

877
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:44,240
covering what everybody's got your kind

878
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:45,760
of different jobs

879
00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:47,600
for us who are in kind of the more

880
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:50,240
operational commentary role it's a lot

881
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:53,200
of studying it's a lot of going to sims

882
00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:54,960
flight control teams

883
00:29:59,909 --> 00:29:57,919
so you know if anything bad ever happens

884
00:30:03,110 --> 00:29:59,919
you're prepared for it you know what's

885
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:03,120
actually happening um that part's been

886
00:30:09,029 --> 00:30:05,919
probably my favorite because learning

887
00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:09,039
we've gotten a chance to basically learn

888
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:11,600
brand new spacecraft and along the way

889
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:13,360
you get a little bit smarter about just

890
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:15,520
general space operations

891
00:30:19,029 --> 00:30:17,120
but the learning about brand new

892
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:19,039
spaceships like that's that's really

893
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:20,320
cool yeah

894
00:30:24,549 --> 00:30:22,480
so that's been a lot of fun uh and then

895
00:30:26,870 --> 00:30:24,559
it's just it's working with spacex or

896
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:26,880
boeing um and the entire nasa team

897
00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:28,480
putting everything together

898
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:29,200
uh

899
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:31,200
maybe doing a couple of practices and

900
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:33,120
then you're off and running um i mean

901
00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:34,320
for us

902
00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:36,159
the spacex ones are fun we get to do

903
00:30:39,430 --> 00:30:37,039
them

904
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:39,440
uh from spacex headquarters in hawthorne

905
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:42,240
uh so this i mean this is leah and jesse

906
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:43,760
uh i'm

907
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:46,080
guessing maybe this was crew one i'm not

908
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:47,679
sure i think it was i think this was

909
00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:49,600
crew one uh they yeah they were on for

910
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:51,200
the crew one launch

911
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:54,480
um and we do that because that's where

912
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:56,000
the mission's controlled from right

913
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:57,679
behind them that's that's hawthorne

914
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:59,279
mission control that's where the spacex

915
00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:01,200
flight controllers are oh and right on

916
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:03,039
cue there it is

917
00:31:07,110 --> 00:31:04,240
that's where the mission's controlled

918
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:07,120
from and that's been kind of one of the

919
00:31:11,590 --> 00:31:09,200
the driving philosophies that we've

920
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:11,600
always had with mission coverage as you

921
00:31:15,669 --> 00:31:13,760
if you're going to really deliver the

922
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:15,679
best information the most up-to-date

923
00:31:19,509 --> 00:31:17,919
information you need to be where all

924
00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:19,519
that's being listened to all of that's

925
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:21,200
being decided

926
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:23,279
and so that's why for the spacex ones

927
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:25,600
you see us out there in hawthorne a lot

928
00:31:29,029 --> 00:31:26,880
for the boeing ones we're here in

929
00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:29,039
houston because this is this is where

930
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:31,519
starliner is being commanded and flown

931
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:34,880
monitored and everything um so

932
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:36,399
we get to travel around a little bit for

933
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:38,720
both of them uh but the

934
00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:40,960
the the again the like the end goal of

935
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:42,159
all of them is

936
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:44,240
uh it's not just a nasa show it's not

937
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:46,080
just a spacex it's not just a boeing

938
00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:47,840
show it's the human space flight show so

939
00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:50,480
we're always wanting to be side by side

940
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:53,279
talking about the mission together um

941
00:31:56,870 --> 00:31:54,960
because it is our mission it's our joint

942
00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:56,880
mission together yeah you know what's

943
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:58,480
cool is um

944
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:00,399
when we did this for the first time you

945
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,159
were you were over there you were

946
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:04,240
where leah was standing as as the nasa

947
00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:05,440
person for

948
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:07,760
for demo two um we got to experience a

949
00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:10,240
little bit with with demo one as well so

950
00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:11,600
all this hard work that you're talking

951
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:14,159
about got put into demo one demo one

952
00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:16,000
didn't you win like an emmy or something

953
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:16,880
like that

954
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:18,080
nah

955
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:19,919
what was it yeah yeah we

956
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:22,960
yeah we won the the emmy for demo one um

957
00:32:27,269 --> 00:32:24,720
which that one was a blast because that

958
00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:27,279
was that was the first one that was the

959
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:30,080
first joint coverage that we did

960
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:32,159
and i was fortunate to be the one that

961
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:34,559
got to go out to spacex and do that

962
00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:37,200
one of my most vivid memories from that

963
00:32:40,149 --> 00:32:38,399
was

964
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:40,159
and anybody that's watched a spacex

965
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:42,240
broadcast you know that they usually

966
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:44,080
will have a big group of their their

967
00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:46,080
employees that gather on mission control

968
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:47,120
to watch

969
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:50,000
and can get pretty enthusiastic

970
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,480
and we did demo one from kind of

971
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:54,720
literally right in front and so we were

972
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:57,200
just in a big crowd of people

973
00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:58,159
and

974
00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:00,080
aside from actually watching a rocket

975
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:02,240
launch that was easily like the most

976
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:05,039
hype i've ever been in a moment but at

977
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:06,799
the same time

978
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:08,559
it was really cool but all that was

979
00:33:12,630 --> 00:33:10,720
going through my head is i can't hear a

980
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,640
single thing that's happening oh yeah

981
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:14,640
and so that was one of the things we

982
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:17,039
learned was all right well once we put

983
00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:19,760
people in the stakes are way up and if

984
00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:21,440
something were to go wrong we need to be

985
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:22,960
able to hear it and we need to know

986
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:25,039
what's happening and so we adjusted a

987
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,880
little bit and you see us kind of up on

988
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:28,799
their their mezzanine now

989
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:30,960
um where you can you can definitely hear

990
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:32,480
and that's that's one thing that a lot

991
00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:34,720
of people might not always understand is

992
00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:37,279
anytime you see us talking on the air

993
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:39,440
we're listening to usually three or four

994
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:41,279
different conversations in our ear so

995
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:43,600
you might have your tv producer talking

996
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:45,440
to you you're listening to flight

997
00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:47,519
control loops you're listening to any of

998
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:48,960
the conversations between the crew and

999
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:50,559
the ground so you're kind of juggling a

1000
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,320
lot of different things so if you ever

1001
00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:54,320
see us suddenly go like completely

1002
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:56,000
stone-faced and stop talking

1003
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,080
mid-sentence we're probably listening to

1004
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:00,720
something very actively we try not to uh

1005
00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:02,880
but we try not to just go stone-faced

1006
00:34:07,750 --> 00:34:05,600
but uh we're always listening yeah

1007
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:07,760
definitely now we're getting a sense of

1008
00:34:11,030 --> 00:34:09,040
especially from the commentators

1009
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:11,040
perspective what we're doing on camera

1010
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:12,320
we're all in these different places

1011
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:13,679
we're representing different centers

1012
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:15,760
we're together in

1013
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:18,079
in hawthorne and in uh in the kennedy

1014
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:19,200
space center and everything you're

1015
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:21,440
showing this this collaboration what's

1016
00:34:24,470 --> 00:34:23,119
happening from the

1017
00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:24,480
behind the scenes from the production

1018
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:26,800
rooms about the you know who's executing

1019
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,960
the show saying cut here do this yeah

1020
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:30,720
and that's

1021
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:32,639
those are easily the people that have to

1022
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:35,280
do the most work yeah

1023
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:38,240
because again you're you're tying in

1024
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:39,919
broadcast locations from around the

1025
00:34:44,869 --> 00:34:42,079
country sometimes from extremely remote

1026
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:44,879
areas with us we're taking in feeds from

1027
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:47,119
outer space

1028
00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:48,720
and so the amount of technical

1029
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,079
coordination goes in is nothing short of

1030
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:54,320
enormous and

1031
00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:56,800
again we're blessed to have just an

1032
00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:00,000
incredibly dedicated team at nasa

1033
00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:02,000
uh and then we get to work with an

1034
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:04,079
equally dedicated and skilled team at

1035
00:35:09,910 --> 00:35:07,599
spacex and at boeing um where

1036
00:35:12,310 --> 00:35:09,920
it's it's a lot of

1037
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:12,320
we get the question how the how do we do

1038
00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:13,760
this

1039
00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:15,680
the question mark question mark question

1040
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,160
mark and you know people don't ever go

1041
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:19,920
we can't do that they immediately think

1042
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:22,560
of new solutions and sometimes it's

1043
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:25,119
it's patchwork last minute you know this

1044
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:27,040
feed just went down completely how the

1045
00:35:31,670 --> 00:35:29,680
heck do we do this now and somehow we

1046
00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:31,680
always find a way

1047
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,240
so we have an incredibly talented group

1048
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:36,400
of people that are able to do that

1049
00:35:40,540 --> 00:35:39,119
camera operators especially uh everyone

1050
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:40,550
knows they're the true heroes

1051
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:43,359
[Laughter]

1052
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:46,560
but and it's and it's it's a lot too

1053
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:48,079
because again you're you're bouncing

1054
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:51,119
between different areas uh you have a

1055
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:53,680
mix of live video the pre-launch show

1056
00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,560
has packages and is just timed out to a

1057
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:58,560
tee and then every single time we time

1058
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:00,960
it out to a t we get into the real thing

1059
00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:03,359
and it gets thrown completely off script

1060
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:05,599
and you're just adjusting in real time

1061
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:06,800
and

1062
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:08,640
i mean the end product is always

1063
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,040
something that we're proud of that's a

1064
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:13,200
as i think is uh is another key piece

1065
00:36:16,310 --> 00:36:15,040
right there was all you have all of

1066
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:16,320
these different pieces coming together

1067
00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:17,839
you have the technical coordination

1068
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:19,200
everybody's got to be studied they got

1069
00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:22,000
to be ready but at any moment you can

1070
00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:23,680
take all of this planning that you've

1071
00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:25,520
done and you just have to throw it out

1072
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:26,960
the window oh yeah because we have to

1073
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:29,040
stick with the story that's being told

1074
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:30,400
if something's going differently from

1075
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:31,680
how we're predicting it's going to go we

1076
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:33,760
have to stick with it and in in the

1077
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:35,920
moment we do it in the aftermath you

1078
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:38,320
think man we spent six months putting

1079
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:41,119
that piece together on this and then

1080
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:43,440
you know crew one they had to reopen the

1081
00:36:47,349 --> 00:36:45,599
hatch so we had to follow that before

1082
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:47,359
before they left off so i mean you had

1083
00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:49,359
big chunks here your plan show that

1084
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:52,000
you're like nope nope nope

1085
00:36:57,109 --> 00:36:54,640
and i mean that's just the reality of

1086
00:37:00,630 --> 00:36:57,119
live tv right you get to audible in real

1087
00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:00,640
time um but again that's where

1088
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:02,640
nasa has a lot of experience kind of

1089
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:04,800
doing that we we've been doing

1090
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:07,760
live mission coverage for decades um and

1091
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:10,160
we've been lucky to attract a lot of

1092
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:12,160
people that

1093
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:13,680
come in and come in with that very

1094
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,839
diverse skill set and

1095
00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:17,520
that adaptability

1096
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:18,560
um

1097
00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:20,480
i mean it definitely sucks in the moment

1098
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:23,599
to to go on sorry interviewer who's been

1099
00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:24,960
standing or interviewee that's been

1100
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:26,560
standing there for an hour um we're

1101
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:28,560
skipping you yes but

1102
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:30,160
sometimes it happens

1103
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:32,560
my favorite moment though is um

1104
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:33,760
launch

1105
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:35,680
you put all this work together right and

1106
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:37,920
and a lot of times when we come on we're

1107
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:39,200
on you know we've done all the

1108
00:37:43,750 --> 00:37:41,760
rehearsals we've studied we've done sims

1109
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:43,760
we've practiced contingency scenarios

1110
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:45,440
and we and even at the time of launch

1111
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:47,440
we've been on for hours

1112
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:48,880
and then that moment comes where

1113
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:50,960
everything everything's working and we

1114
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:52,880
get to see this thing lift off and as

1115
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:54,880
you said you got to hear cheers behind

1116
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:57,839
you during this moment and i i got to

1117
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:59,119
hear it too

1118
00:38:02,470 --> 00:38:00,480
i got to be a part of it and it's just

1119
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:02,480
you have your hearts pumping during this

1120
00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:04,720
moment uh when you're seeing this and

1121
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:05,599
you're just

1122
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:07,760
you're watching it but you're actively

1123
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,680
thinking about and listening to

1124
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:11,520
everything that's going on i have

1125
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,040
something i want to say but i'm actively

1126
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:14,880
listening they're pitching downrange

1127
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:15,839
vehicle

1128
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:17,760
is stable and nominal i'm listening to

1129
00:38:21,270 --> 00:38:19,760
all of that as it's going through just

1130
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:21,280
making sure that the story that we're

1131
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:24,240
telling real time as my heart is racing

1132
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:25,760
is is the accurate story that we're

1133
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,400
telling yeah it's and the the crew

1134
00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:30,320
launches i mean the way that we do them

1135
00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:31,920
you you start your show like you said

1136
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:34,240
we're on for hours so we start the show

1137
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:36,160
i think about four hours before launch

1138
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,440
because that's when the crew is starting

1139
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:39,599
to get suited up and everything

1140
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:42,400
and it's it's tough to because you know

1141
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,920
you know that this is the day that i'm

1142
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:45,599
gonna go and you know we're going to

1143
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:47,520
launch we're going to do everything

1144
00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:48,640
and then

1145
00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:50,560
you start and the adrenaline hits right

1146
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,079
as you start the show

1147
00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:54,240
and then you sit down for an hour

1148
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:55,280
and

1149
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:56,640
then you have another couple of minutes

1150
00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:59,280
and then you sit down for an hour and so

1151
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:01,920
and then once you get really into kind

1152
00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:04,800
of that final 30 minutes is when it all

1153
00:39:08,310 --> 00:39:06,560
like it all hits

1154
00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:08,320
and it all really starts to feel real

1155
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:09,680
and you're going back through everything

1156
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,440
in your head and you're and you're

1157
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:13,440
praying that the weather doesn't turn i

1158
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:15,760
still remember the second attempt on dm2

1159
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,760
where we all showed up after scrubbing

1160
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:19,680
the first day and like there's no way

1161
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:21,359
we're gonna go today

1162
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:22,400
and then

1163
00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:24,160
like an hour before launch like the

1164
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:26,160
skies opened up and it's like oh no

1165
00:39:30,230 --> 00:39:28,079
we're actually doing this i actually

1166
00:39:32,470 --> 00:39:30,240
have to do this now yeah

1167
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:32,480
and you go through the full gamut of

1168
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:34,160
emotions where i mean it's always a

1169
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:36,480
little bit scary

1170
00:39:39,990 --> 00:39:37,440
it's

1171
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:40,000
really exciting yeah your heart's going

1172
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:41,040
but

1173
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:42,880
fortunately i think we do a pretty good

1174
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:46,160
job of just kind of preparing people um

1175
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:48,240
so

1176
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:48,960
i

1177
00:39:57,430 --> 00:39:55,680
gotta have to go back and

1178
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,440
and watch again because it is just

1179
00:40:03,109 --> 00:39:59,760
something like you're so in the moment

1180
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:03,119
um but it's it's really exciting yeah

1181
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:05,200
um i know the astronauts whenever we we

1182
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:07,359
get to talk to them i i just recently

1183
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:09,119
when i interviewed uh shane kimbrough i

1184
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:10,079
said what's it what's going to be your

1185
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:11,359
favorite part of the mission he says

1186
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:13,200
return it home because that's the end of

1187
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:15,760
the mission right and so um even there

1188
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:17,200
you said there was challenges technical

1189
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:18,560
challenges you said earlier you said

1190
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:19,760
we'll talk about them later but the

1191
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:21,760
challenges specifically for i mean we

1192
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:23,359
talked a little bit about the desert you

1193
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,640
said how fun that was for boeing

1194
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,640
missions for spacex missions when you're

1195
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:28,079
landing in the ocean that presents a

1196
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:29,760
whole different type of technical

1197
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,000
challenge yeah when it comes to you know

1198
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:34,400
what was hard technically though the

1199
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:37,760
return stuff is probably the hardest at

1200
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:39,599
least just from everything that i was

1201
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:41,359
involved in because it was a lot of your

1202
00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:44,319
you're basically starting from scratch

1203
00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:46,640
with launch you we already have so much

1204
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:48,319
infrastructure for covering to launch

1205
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:49,440
just because we've been doing it for a

1206
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:52,000
very long time and then with these shows

1207
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:53,040
you had

1208
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:55,119
two companies two spacecraft landing in

1209
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:56,880
two completely different environments

1210
00:41:01,910 --> 00:40:59,119
one in the ocean off the coast of

1211
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:01,920
florida and then one at one of several

1212
00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:04,720
deserts and so

1213
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,359
it's it's still in this day and age not

1214
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:10,000
easy to get a video signal it's doable

1215
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:12,319
but it's not easy to get a video signal

1216
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:14,319
let alone something really high def and

1217
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:16,880
pretty um from somewhere that's so

1218
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:19,119
remote where you're almost entirely

1219
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:21,920
relying on a satellite uplink capability

1220
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:22,720
which

1221
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:24,880
anybody who's ever used a sat phone or

1222
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,480
tried to set up their own kind of

1223
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,040
broadcast it can be pretty finicky sure

1224
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:31,119
and if it stops working all of a sudden

1225
00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:32,800
you're out of options

1226
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:35,920
um but it's it's been fun to kind of to

1227
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:38,240
to figure those out uh with the spacex

1228
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:40,160
ones we've got like an uplink that we're

1229
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:42,079
able to use

1230
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:43,760
for a bunch of the missions we've also

1231
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:47,119
used uh the the wb-57 it's nasa's high

1232
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:49,040
altitude research plane

1233
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,880
to get some of the the parachute events

1234
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:52,400
and everything but i mean it's it's

1235
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:53,839
worth it when you see that on your

1236
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:55,280
screen and especially this

1237
00:41:59,349 --> 00:41:57,119
capsule's coming down and you see four

1238
00:42:00,710 --> 00:41:59,359
good shoots or splashing down in the

1239
00:42:02,710 --> 00:42:00,720
water

1240
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:02,720
so we've we've got some pretty great

1241
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:04,640
capability now and again there's there's

1242
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,160
a team at kennedy

1243
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:08,160
a guy by the name of mike downs and his

1244
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:10,560
whole group who've done just phenomenal

1245
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:13,040
work to be able to get that signal out

1246
00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:15,280
uh from the spacex splashdowns and then

1247
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:17,920
the boeing ones which

1248
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:20,319
again those are probably my favorite

1249
00:42:25,109 --> 00:42:23,440
part that we do right now just because

1250
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:25,119
when you're on the boat you're a lot

1251
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:27,839
more space and personnel limited

1252
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:29,440
so that's one thing that landing in the

1253
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:32,079
desert helps just like from purely

1254
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:33,920
showing people the mission

1255
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:35,760
we have a little bit more capability

1256
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:37,359
where and

1257
00:42:40,630 --> 00:42:38,880
one of my favorite things about the

1258
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:40,640
boeing ones is we're actually part of

1259
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:43,520
the operational team for this we go out

1260
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,920
and set up a camera that provides

1261
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:48,000
situational awareness the entire landing

1262
00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:50,000
zone back to the flight control team in

1263
00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:52,079
mission control so we're right in there

1264
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:53,680
with the convoy

1265
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:55,119
we're able to get everything set up and

1266
00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:56,480
again it's

1267
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:58,240
it was a boeing guy by the name of tom

1268
00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:59,520
rule who

1269
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:02,000
kind of is the the godfather of all of

1270
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:04,000
that that hardware that goes out there

1271
00:43:08,470 --> 00:43:05,760
and him and his him and his guys and

1272
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:08,480
girls are just wizards at at being able

1273
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,119
to get us as many different options as

1274
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:13,520
possible and we're we're able to bring

1275
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,440
people just you're you're embedded

1276
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:17,599
inside the team that's bringing them out

1277
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,520
bring you right up to the hatch

1278
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:21,280
when we start taking crew members out

1279
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:24,000
and everything and it's really fun

1280
00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:24,880
and

1281
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,319
they've they've got really cool

1282
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,560
solutions to get video back from there

1283
00:43:33,109 --> 00:43:30,960
over here to houston uh where we're able

1284
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:33,119
to to mix it in and punch it out to the

1285
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,680
whole world um it's

1286
00:43:40,150 --> 00:43:38,160
it was cool like getting to start from a

1287
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:40,160
blank slate and figuring out how to do

1288
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:41,440
all this and

1289
00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:43,520
you're bouncing around between two very

1290
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:45,839
different solutions um for the both of

1291
00:43:49,349 --> 00:43:47,119
them but

1292
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:49,359
again the the end the end goal is we

1293
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:51,359
want to show people we want to show you

1294
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:54,400
everything as much as we possibly can

1295
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:55,839
um

1296
00:44:00,309 --> 00:43:57,359
i mean i think we've done a pretty good

1297
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:00,319
job so far yeah honestly it's uh it

1298
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:02,000
shows i think i think a lot of people

1299
00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:04,319
engage we've had crazy numbers with the

1300
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:06,319
people that have tuned in and i think i

1301
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:08,000
think that really shows that the people

1302
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:09,359
are interested in this stuff and i think

1303
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,119
that's exciting too that people really

1304
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:12,960
are interested in this stuff

1305
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:15,200
i want to jump to questions now um we've

1306
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:17,280
talked a lot about commercial crew and

1307
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,040
and got the inside scoop of what's going

1308
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:21,200
on so let's dive back into the questions

1309
00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:22,480
thanks because we got we got a lot of

1310
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:24,800
them actually since since we've uh

1311
00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:26,880
started talking again so this

1312
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:29,839
once from brad who's asking when media

1313
00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:31,119
will be allowed

1314
00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:32,800
back for in-person

1315
00:44:37,349 --> 00:44:35,359
news conferences so this is this is due

1316
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,359
to covet we've been doing remote

1317
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:39,200
yeah that's a good question i mean the

1318
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:41,680
the short answer is hopefully soon uh

1319
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,359
we're going to be following all of the

1320
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:45,280
cdc guidance and everything else that

1321
00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:47,440
the entire federal government

1322
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:50,000
is mandated to follow we're we're not

1323
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:51,680
going to do it until we can make sure

1324
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,040
that we're keeping everybody safe

1325
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:56,880
things are obviously loosening up a

1326
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,800
little bit more now we're able to if

1327
00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:00,800
you're fully vaccinated

1328
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:02,800
do a couple more things on site which is

1329
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:04,400
why gary and i aren't wearing masks

1330
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:06,960
right yeah um and so i think if things

1331
00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:08,880
continuing to trend good we still see

1332
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:10,880
good vaccination rates and caseloads

1333
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:14,160
going down um hopefully soon i couldn't

1334
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:16,000
give you a date because it'd be wrong

1335
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:18,720
but hopefully soon sure all right this

1336
00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:21,520
next one's from anita uh she's asking or

1337
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:22,960
she's saying i love the show the

1338
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:24,400
highlight on my friday every week thank

1339
00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:26,720
you anita uh will the podcast ever be

1340
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:29,520
recorded in space one day do you think

1341
00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:30,319
um

1342
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:33,440
i would really love to record a podcast

1343
00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:35,359
in space so if you would like that

1344
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:37,520
please let us know because i'll i'll go

1345
00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:39,040
i don't think it's in our budget to send

1346
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:42,160
gary to space for an episode but we have

1347
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:44,960
had guests from space you and i did one

1348
00:45:48,309 --> 00:45:47,200
we got to talk to jack fisher yeah that

1349
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:48,319
was fun

1350
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:51,200
the most excited astronaut in history he

1351
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:53,200
was he was really fun to talk to we had

1352
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:54,960
i think it was like how we set it up was

1353
00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:56,720
we we got on and we were just chatting

1354
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,520
about

1355
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:59,599
just life in space ahead of the a

1356
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:01,200
downlink call which we do every once in

1357
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:02,800
a while we get downlinks and we talk

1358
00:46:07,589 --> 00:46:05,520
with schools universities media whatever

1359
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:07,599
um but this one we got to chat with jack

1360
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:09,599
fisher and he was such an awesome guest

1361
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:12,319
um he between every question he went on

1362
00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:14,400
a different wall if you remember yeah he

1363
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:15,839
just spontaneously said i'm going to

1364
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:17,599
flip walls uh every single time you guys

1365
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:19,680
ask me a question so he was just kind of

1366
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:22,160
rotating around like a clock he was

1367
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:25,119
great he was he was so much fun uh we

1368
00:46:28,069 --> 00:46:26,480
did another one too where we talked

1369
00:46:30,150 --> 00:46:28,079
about photography and and just the

1370
00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:30,160
perspective they had uh so we got that's

1371
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:31,839
i got four astronauts that were on board

1372
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:34,240
at the same time um i think vanda high

1373
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:36,000
was one of them vandenheit was one of my

1374
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:37,200
guests who i got to interview a number

1375
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:38,400
of times i think i've interviewed him

1376
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:40,960
four times once from space so

1377
00:46:44,950 --> 00:46:42,880
for the podcast which is pretty cool so

1378
00:46:46,710 --> 00:46:44,960
yeah uh but if you want me to need to go

1379
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:46,720
please let us know

1380
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:48,960
uh we got another one from calvin who's

1381
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:51,040
asking uh what made you come up with

1382
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:53,040
space to ground short format this is our

1383
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:53,920
short

1384
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,079
weekly video we put on youtube two

1385
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:58,160
minutes and we talk about the highlights

1386
00:47:01,990 --> 00:46:59,760
from that week kind of a compressed

1387
00:47:03,589 --> 00:47:02,000
version very compressed version of what

1388
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:03,599
space station live used to be yeah and

1389
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:05,280
that was that was part of what it was

1390
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:07,680
when the decision was made to

1391
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:09,119
that that came out initially when we

1392
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:10,480
were going to shorten space station live

1393
00:47:13,750 --> 00:47:12,079
but one thing you would do every single

1394
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:13,760
friday on space station live is you

1395
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:16,000
would give a recap of the whole week

1396
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:18,079
and so the the space station pao at the

1397
00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:20,160
time josh byerly

1398
00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:22,559
came up with space to ground

1399
00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:23,839
and

1400
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:26,240
it's been like one of our staple

1401
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:30,240
products for for years now um where

1402
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,880
it's kind of short compact um the

1403
00:47:37,829 --> 00:47:35,280
producer for it right now dexter herbert

1404
00:47:39,670 --> 00:47:37,839
has done an incredible job just kind of

1405
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:39,680
keeping the look fresh

1406
00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:41,680
and working in uh

1407
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:43,599
and we've been doing it all remote

1408
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:46,079
during covid um and so all of our hosts

1409
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:48,000
have done an incredible job just you

1410
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:50,400
know filming it in their own homes uh

1411
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,720
and then decks uh editing everything

1412
00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:54,720
together but it's it is that kind of

1413
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:57,040
that weekly bite size um

1414
00:48:01,910 --> 00:47:59,040
we we really like it's a lot of fun to

1415
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,920
make i still crash the show uh every

1416
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:03,839
every christmas to give myself an excuse

1417
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:06,559
to buy a new ugly christmas sweater but

1418
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:08,880
it's it's a lot of fun and um yeah it

1419
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:11,760
was just it was another it was

1420
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:13,839
one of the ways that we thought we could

1421
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:15,760
kind of more effectively tell people

1422
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:17,119
what's happening in the station this

1423
00:48:19,270 --> 00:48:18,480
week

1424
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:19,280
yeah

1425
00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:21,760
um one more from roger weiss another

1426
00:48:26,309 --> 00:48:23,440
name we don't recognize his name

1427
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:26,319
um hey raj uh any plans to record

1428
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:28,880
interviews at other nasa centers

1429
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:31,200
during during covet actually we've same

1430
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:32,319
thing as space to ground where all of

1431
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:34,400
our hosts are remote um we record all of

1432
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:35,760
our guest remote that's what we've been

1433
00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:39,359
doing since since um covet and uh

1434
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:41,680
because of that we've been having all of

1435
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:43,040
our interviews over the phone which

1436
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,440
really broadens our reach so lately

1437
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:47,040
we've been talking with a bunch of

1438
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:48,240
people from a bunch of different nasa

1439
00:48:53,109 --> 00:48:50,240
centers i've got some episodes coming up

1440
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:53,119
we're talking with interns um from it's

1441
00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:54,880
going to be me and interns from three

1442
00:48:57,750 --> 00:48:56,559
different nasa centers all at the same

1443
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:57,760
call

1444
00:49:02,230 --> 00:48:59,599
so that provides a lot of different

1445
00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,240
flexibility absolutely we did one

1446
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,480
another one early on was when we did

1447
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:06,400
with nasa in silicon valley which is

1448
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:09,280
another podcast and we did that one uh

1449
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:10,960
remote i was with shane kimbrough at the

1450
00:49:15,510 --> 00:49:13,280
time just me and him uh in the studio in

1451
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:15,520
the booth actually uh we both had two

1452
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:17,040
microphones and we were talking with the

1453
00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:19,119
the host and uh guest over there over at

1454
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:20,960
ames research center so we're able to do

1455
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:22,960
it remote um which is which is pretty

1456
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:24,640
nice i haven't gone over to another

1457
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:26,720
center though to record that yeah and

1458
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,559
kind of like silicon valley there are

1459
00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:30,720
there are podcasts at other centers now

1460
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:33,440
um the the the podcast revolution kind

1461
00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:35,680
of swept through swept through nasa i

1462
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:37,359
think silicon valley was the first one

1463
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:39,200
and then yeah you guys started this one

1464
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:40,800
you were second yeah um i know there's

1465
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:43,440
rocket ranch out at ksc and there's a

1466
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:46,000
gravity assist at a nasa headquarters so

1467
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:47,359
that that's one of the things to

1468
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:48,720
remember is

1469
00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:50,640
we we obviously talked about human space

1470
00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:52,640
flight a lot there's so much more to

1471
00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:54,000
nasa

1472
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:56,839
whether it's robotic missions or

1473
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,400
aeronautics just really

1474
00:50:04,790 --> 00:50:02,800
out there physics and just fundamental

1475
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:04,800
science and stuff and so there there's

1476
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:06,880
probably if there's some other aspect of

1477
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:08,880
nasa that that we're not hitting on

1478
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,559
since we kind of tend to focus on the

1479
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:12,400
human space flight there's probably a

1480
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:13,920
nasa podcast out there that you can

1481
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,200
listen to that's gonna that's gonna

1482
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:17,280
scratch that edge on that i got i got

1483
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,160
one more pull for our audience and so um

1484
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:22,720
this one is about topics so of all of

1485
00:50:26,309 --> 00:50:24,079
the architecture we have a podcast

1486
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:26,319
topics that we've had which one

1487
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:29,040
interests you most so i got mars space

1488
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:31,920
station science engineering astronauts

1489
00:50:35,670 --> 00:50:34,079
are the ones that i have listed but if

1490
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:35,680
you have another topic that is of

1491
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:38,079
interest to you life sciences or you

1492
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:40,000
know by different biology microbiology

1493
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:41,839
whatever it may be put in the comments

1494
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,839
um that's what's nice about the podcast

1495
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:45,359
as you were saying you know we do human

1496
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:46,800
spaceflight but we kind of broaden it a

1497
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,319
little bit more and then there's other

1498
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:50,160
nasa podcasts that go into maybe

1499
00:50:53,349 --> 00:50:51,680
different astronomy or what's going on

1500
00:50:55,190 --> 00:50:53,359
at different nasa centers so yeah so we

1501
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:55,200
got a little bit of everything which is

1502
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:56,160
nice

1503
00:51:00,230 --> 00:50:58,160
all right um going back to commercial

1504
00:51:01,750 --> 00:51:00,240
crew uh and our coverage for a second

1505
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:01,760
actually going beyond commercial crew i

1506
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:03,839
kind of wanted to end with this is

1507
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:04,640
um

1508
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,640
commercial crew i mean what you have

1509
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:08,160
been helping to do and helping lead the

1510
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:09,920
charge to do is is do things a little

1511
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:12,480
bit differently now we're pulling in uh

1512
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,319
spacex and boeing to come with us and

1513
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:16,319
tell this story of human space flight

1514
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:18,480
but things are changing we have private

1515
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,760
astronauts going to the international

1516
00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:21,520
space station soon we're going to be

1517
00:51:24,549 --> 00:51:23,280
going to the moon and we've got we both

1518
00:51:26,069 --> 00:51:24,559
talked about how excited we are about

1519
00:51:28,069 --> 00:51:26,079
artemis missions but that's all going to

1520
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:28,079
change how we do our mission commentary

1521
00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:30,000
and how we tell these different stories

1522
00:51:32,790 --> 00:51:31,520
so what are you looking forward to most

1523
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:32,800
yeah it's

1524
00:51:36,390 --> 00:51:34,400
i think i said it in a meeting the other

1525
00:51:38,069 --> 00:51:36,400
day it's kind of it's kind of a

1526
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:38,079
double-edged sword

1527
00:51:41,430 --> 00:51:39,200
where

1528
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:41,440
there's all of this new stuff coming up

1529
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:43,680
and so that's really exciting you're

1530
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:45,200
you're going to be constantly kind of

1531
00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:47,680
reinventing and figuring out new things

1532
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:50,800
and trying new things at the same time

1533
00:51:54,069 --> 00:51:52,480
you don't ever really get a breather

1534
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:54,079
where you can just kind of you know

1535
00:51:57,589 --> 00:51:55,920
let's just keep doing this this kind of

1536
00:52:00,549 --> 00:51:57,599
show for a while like there's always

1537
00:52:02,790 --> 00:52:00,559
that pressure or really that necessity

1538
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:02,800
to change how you're covering something

1539
00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,599
because i mean you mentioned private

1540
00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:07,839
astronauts we're we're figuring that all

1541
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:09,680
out right now because they'll be going

1542
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:11,599
to the space station so we're involved

1543
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:13,440
but they're not nasa astronauts

1544
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:16,480
launching and it's not a nasa mission

1545
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:18,800
so we just have to continue to evolve

1546
00:52:21,109 --> 00:52:20,160
you know how we're gonna but at the same

1547
00:52:23,430 --> 00:52:21,119
time

1548
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:23,440
it's a critical step in the

1549
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:25,200
commercialization of low earth orbit

1550
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:27,599
which is what we've been pushing so hard

1551
00:52:31,109 --> 00:52:29,359
with space station for years now and

1552
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:31,119
it's really the cornerstone of making

1553
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:33,359
that possible so we obviously have a

1554
00:52:36,710 --> 00:52:35,040
vested interest in it

1555
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:36,720
really any time there's human space

1556
00:52:41,829 --> 00:52:39,200
flight we're a fan of it

1557
00:52:44,549 --> 00:52:41,839
and so how else can we kind of help

1558
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:44,559
cover that and augment it and you know

1559
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:46,079
really help tell the story and then

1560
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:47,760
artemis is

1561
00:52:55,030 --> 00:52:52,160
another complete reinvention um

1562
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:55,040
i'm really excited for that just because

1563
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:57,119
and our our previous nasa administrator

1564
00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:59,200
jim bridenstine would talk about this a

1565
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:01,040
lot where

1566
00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:02,319
you have

1567
00:53:06,549 --> 00:53:04,400
multiple generations living on planet

1568
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:06,559
earth that did not experience the first

1569
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:09,119
moon landing that it's it's black and

1570
00:53:14,870 --> 00:53:12,160
white footage or it's a textbook

1571
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,880
article for us um

1572
00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:16,400
and when you you

1573
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:18,400
look at the numbers of just how many

1574
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:20,079
people tuned in

1575
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:21,520
and how just

1576
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:24,480
pivotal a moment it stands out in the

1577
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,880
history of engineering and just human

1578
00:53:31,109 --> 00:53:28,400
achievement

1579
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:31,119
we're going back to do that again we're

1580
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:34,720
we're taking that big leap again and so

1581
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:37,040
we better really have our stuff together

1582
00:53:40,069 --> 00:53:38,880
uh to bring the whole world along with

1583
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:40,079
it and so

1584
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:42,800
i'm really excited for kind of the new

1585
00:53:47,270 --> 00:53:44,880
kind of technologies out there as we can

1586
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:47,280
make cameras smaller and you know

1587
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:49,599
increase resolution i

1588
00:53:54,549 --> 00:53:51,520
i understand everybody we're still at

1589
00:53:55,670 --> 00:53:54,559
720p for a lot of stuff we're working on

1590
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:55,680
it

1591
00:54:01,030 --> 00:53:58,720
because

1592
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:01,040
a moment like that deserves that a

1593
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:03,839
moment like that deserves to be seen

1594
00:54:08,390 --> 00:54:07,280
and experienced in just the best way

1595
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:08,400
possible

1596
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:11,680
and given to as many people as we could

1597
00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:15,040
ever possibly reach um and so

1598
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:16,960
tackling those challenges is going to be

1599
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:18,160
it's going to be exciting it's going to

1600
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:19,680
be hard because

1601
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:22,240
it's it's never as easy as just stick a

1602
00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:24,000
camera on a spacecraft and point an

1603
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:26,800
antenna back at earth

1604
00:54:31,270 --> 00:54:29,200
every single pound that goes to the moon

1605
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:31,280
is worth a lot of money and a lot of

1606
00:54:35,109 --> 00:54:32,800
fuel

1607
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:35,119
you don't have an unlimited data plan

1608
00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:36,880
when you're sending stuff back and forth

1609
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:39,520
from the moon and believe it or not 4k

1610
00:54:44,309 --> 00:54:42,880
video eats up a lot of bandwidth um so i

1611
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:44,319
mean there's challenges out there but

1612
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:46,160
the the cool thing is like we're having

1613
00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:47,920
those discussions right now we're

1614
00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:49,599
thinking about how the heck are we going

1615
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:50,720
to do this

1616
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:53,280
and it's not something that's you know

1617
00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:55,920
way off in the future like we need to

1618
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:58,000
have those meetings now or we're not

1619
00:55:01,829 --> 00:54:59,760
going to be able to do it and so that's

1620
00:55:04,230 --> 00:55:01,839
what's really exciting

1621
00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:04,240
dan you're very passionate about

1622
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:05,920
telling the story right and that's what

1623
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:08,240
our job is our job is to

1624
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:10,559
tell that story it's to is to it's to

1625
00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:12,799
give that people what they are expecting

1626
00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:15,200
which is beautiful pictures of the moon

1627
00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:17,680
when we return um it it's to it's to

1628
00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:18,960
tell stories in these we talked about

1629
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:21,040
space to ground we're doing a podcast

1630
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:22,559
we're doing everything we can to share

1631
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:24,960
what we're doing and involve as many

1632
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:27,200
people as possible so

1633
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:29,280
when you think about nasa's directive to

1634
00:55:33,829 --> 00:55:31,280
reach out to the widest practical

1635
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:33,839
practicable audiences which is always

1636
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:36,480
it's our charter um and and our passion

1637
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:38,880
for doing it what really drives you to

1638
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:40,799
tell story to do things differently to

1639
00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:44,000
reach wider audiences well it's

1640
00:55:47,750 --> 00:55:46,559
it really hits home when especially and

1641
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that's one of the things that social

1642
00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:49,599
media has been so great for

1643
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:53,119
when you see who it is that's watching

1644
00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:56,079
um it's it's it's hard to to kind of

1645
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:57,760
grasp that when you're in the moment

1646
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:59,440
because i mean when when we're doing

1647
00:56:02,789 --> 00:56:01,040
this right now when we're when we're

1648
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:02,799
covering a launch or something it's me

1649
00:56:06,870 --> 00:56:04,480
and like maybe a couple of other people

1650
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,880
in a room and that's it

1651
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,720
but with the advent of social media you

1652
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:10,559
get a constant stream of this person

1653
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:12,400
checking in from germany this person

1654
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:14,960
checking in from india you know it's the

1655
00:56:20,789 --> 00:56:18,319
entire world will will be tuning in

1656
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:20,799
um and so when you have that kind of

1657
00:56:24,470 --> 00:56:22,720
instant feedback that

1658
00:56:26,630 --> 00:56:24,480
oh wow like all of these people are

1659
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:26,640
paying attention it it helps kind of

1660
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:29,040
light the fire under you um

1661
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:31,680
to to really do as much as you possibly

1662
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:32,960
can to

1663
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:34,559
to make it a great show to make it

1664
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:36,720
something that people want to watch uh

1665
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:39,599
and are excited and inspired by

1666
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:41,280
well dan this has been awesome to have

1667
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:43,280
you on and talk about your passion for

1668
00:56:46,470 --> 00:56:44,720
communication and just all the work you

1669
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:46,480
did to to make you know to reach wider

1670
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:48,160
audiences and get them excited about

1671
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:50,000
what we're doing so i appreciate you

1672
00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:53,040
coming on thanks yeah thanks um it's

1673
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:55,359
like i said we we did episode one like

1674
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:57,760
10 feet over there it at a tiny little

1675
00:57:01,750 --> 00:57:00,160
table and two microphones never knowing

1676
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:01,760
what it would turn into

1677
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:04,720
uh here's episode 200

1678
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:05,680
um

1679
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:06,880
and

1680
00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:09,280
i'm so impressed

1681
00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:11,359
like you guys have done an incredible

1682
00:57:16,789 --> 00:57:14,799
job and this is this was your baby so

1683
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:16,799
we're really proud of you gary

1684
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:18,720
well i wasn't fishing for that but thank

1685
00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:21,040
you dan that doesn't mean anything i i

1686
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:22,799
do appreciate it and and thanks to you

1687
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:25,440
for for watching um thanks for tuning in

1688
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:27,200
thanks for uh sending in your questions

1689
00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:29,119
and engaging with us this really did

1690
00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:30,960
mean a lot to the both of us to do

1691
00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:32,960
something special for the 200th episode

1692
00:57:36,309 --> 00:57:34,480
of houston we have a podcast i hope you

1693
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:36,319
really enjoyed it give us a rating give

1694
00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:38,720
us some feedback on on facebook and on

1695
00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:40,799
our wherever we are apple podcast google

1696
00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:43,280
podcast soundcloud and uh we hope you'll

1697
00:58:01,070 --> 00:57:45,710
tune in next time